tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500144491563926221.post2600235038690480202..comments2023-10-30T12:12:01.337+02:00Comments on Light Scrape: In the unmapped forests of the futureJuha Haatajahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00361255734892508254noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500144491563926221.post-38918720676250588282011-11-19T10:17:36.022+02:002011-11-19T10:17:36.022+02:00@Markus: It is interesting that you mention 'G...@Markus: It is interesting that you mention 'Grapes of Wrath' together with Dorothea Lange's 'Migrant Mother'. For me there was over 20 years between reading the book and seen that photograph - it wasn't long ago when I didn't yet know anything about what FSA was doing during depression.<br /><br />But anyway, I think our worldview is dominated by a kind of "Disney reality", where even poverty is made to look good: "Barbie as the Princess and the Pauper". Maybe we would go mad otherwise?Juha Haatajahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00361255734892508254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500144491563926221.post-81113846226989452522011-11-18T22:58:37.634+02:002011-11-18T22:58:37.634+02:00For me 'Grapes of Wrath' is deeply connect...For me 'Grapes of Wrath' is deeply connected with Dorothea Lange's 'Migrant Mother'. I read Lange's biography last year and found it really impressive, although in explaining to me a bit of the American mindset and spirit, certainly different to what was at that time in Europe.Markus Springhttp://markus-spring.infonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500144491563926221.post-27046625861971253932011-11-18T21:40:02.919+02:002011-11-18T21:40:02.919+02:00@Markus: Thanks for pointing out the Eskildson pho...@Markus: Thanks for pointing out the Eskildson photographs on poverty. <br /><br />They brought to mind the experience of reading The Grapes of Wrath, of the impossible situation the migrant workers had in their lives. The terror of poverty, a fear beyond every other.Juha Haatajahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00361255734892508254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500144491563926221.post-8405196626943094612011-11-18T19:42:03.318+02:002011-11-18T19:42:03.318+02:00Juha, that "we have it too good right now&quo...Juha, that "we have it too good right now" could be on the right track: The substantial challenges we have are not recognized (and they probably won't hit this ruling generation), so the amassing of wealth and comfort seems to be a reasonable goal. Of course most European states are far from U.S. circumstances, where a large percentage of the population lives under precarious circumstances (you probably saw the Eskildson photos in Time: http://lightbox.time.com/2011/11/17/below-the-line-portraits-of-american-poverty/#1 ) but some are trying to emulate the mechanisms.Markus Springhttp://markus-spring.infonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500144491563926221.post-22873347374445556022011-11-18T19:00:21.270+02:002011-11-18T19:00:21.270+02:00@Markus: When I took the "Street" photog...@Markus: When I took the "Street" photograph I felt happy for some reason, but had no idea why. Now I sort of "get it" - but there was some part of the brain that "saw" something and made me stop to take a photograph.<br /><br />And about education: this lack of interest is all the more strange when you note that all our future depends on new ideas, discoveries and innovations - and if we waste the talent of human beings by not educating all children, we will not be able to cope with future challenges.<br /><br />Well, maybe we have it too good right now...Juha Haatajahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00361255734892508254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500144491563926221.post-53963354347265803872011-11-18T18:56:10.801+02:002011-11-18T18:56:10.801+02:00@Richard: I almost didn't stop to take the &qu...@Richard: I almost didn't stop to take the "Tree" photograph, as it was so dark. I used ISO 500, f/2,0, EV -1 and 0.6 second exposure. That was pushing the limits of the LX5. <br /><br />It is far from sharp, and noisy - but I do like it.<br /><br />What I find remarkable that when I stop to take a photograph, I often have no conscious idea why I do so. And I try not to start thinking about it, I just let it happen - think afterwards. <br /><br />Sometimes I'm completely baffled why a particular photograph works. Of course, usually they don't.Juha Haatajahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00361255734892508254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500144491563926221.post-65372515900144459542011-11-18T11:06:42.713+02:002011-11-18T11:06:42.713+02:00I like today's images - "Street" mad...I like today's images - "Street" made me chuckle.<br />Re. education: What you and I profited from was a period in the 60' and 70' of last century, when after recovery from WWII and satisfaction of the most urgent needs a mindset enthusiastic of education became mainstream for a short time - at least in Germany it has mostly ebbed away. But at that time educated and idealistic politicians were able to share a vision about developing the potential in the whole population for mutual benefit.<br /><br />Beginning already in the 80' we saw a paradigm change here in Germany, partially re-establishing a moderate class system again: For the masses we got commercial TV stations, bringing the level of entertainment to increasing all-time-lows, and for the upper class elite promotion was introduced in form of extra funded universities and tuition (fees) for the students. The last step - still in discussion - is a bonus payment for parents who don't send their kids to a public kindergarden.<br /><br />It seems that education for all doesn't have a high priority any more.Markus Springhttp://markus-spring.infonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500144491563926221.post-47194192451184860702011-11-17T22:10:10.127+02:002011-11-17T22:10:10.127+02:00There's something very satisfying about Tree. ...There's something very satisfying about Tree. It's a very ordinary scene, but the position of the objects and the framing make it pleasurable. The browns too. You find beauty, in strange places.Richard Beddardhttp://beddard.net/noreply@blogger.com