tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500144491563926221.post8331948363037195613..comments2023-10-30T12:12:01.337+02:00Comments on Light Scrape: The illusion of skillJuha Haatajahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00361255734892508254noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500144491563926221.post-17314867503556974872011-10-25T20:16:05.162+03:002011-10-25T20:16:05.162+03:00@Andreas and Markus: You both demonstrate again an...@Andreas and Markus: You both demonstrate again and again that skill exists.<br /><br />@Markus: I ordered a copy of Kahnemans book "Thinking, Fast and Slow", but at 500+ pages is will be a challenge to read. <br /><br />Maybe it is in areas of high uncertainty that Kahneman's lessons apply most - and maybe even in such horrible scale is in the global economy. Is it a skill, or just roulette (with other people's money)?Juha Haatajahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00361255734892508254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500144491563926221.post-693137888326994352011-10-25T20:10:29.270+03:002011-10-25T20:10:29.270+03:00@Andreas: Maybe it applies to areas where it is ve...@Andreas: Maybe it applies to areas where it is very hard to say what impact you are making - so big rewards are given to make it feel like something worthwhile was done.<br /><br />In practical matters, like nurses in hospitals, or teachers in elementary schools, motivation has to be internal. ;-)Juha Haatajahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00361255734892508254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500144491563926221.post-30034563029976571952011-10-24T22:33:52.931+03:002011-10-24T22:33:52.931+03:00Juha, in my eyes financial advisory is much less a...Juha, in my eyes financial advisory is much less an art/skill/activity with predictable outcome than photography is. I avoid the term art here, is much too big a word for most cases where it's applied to nowadays and it probably takes generations until the dust settles and wheat is separated from the chaff.<br /><br />To come back to financial advisory: on a level high enough it influences the markets and then becomes skill, albeit a horrible one, as we experience now. Kahnemann's study most probably was not targeting such extreme endeavours.<br /><br />Photography for me is a very multi-faceted activity, involving many levels of both perceptual and visionary as well as technical levels. Any combination of them can lead to admirable results, complete lack of one component most probably will not. Yes, as Andreas said, skill is needed (and it's possible to develop and broaden it) in photography. Without it - visible quite often - good ideas can remain stuck at an inferior level, never reaching their full potential.<br /><br />Too many words about theory, I came here because I expected skilled imagery, one with a deeper perception in it, and got rewarded. I dare to postulate: skill is here ;)Markus Springhttp://markus-spring.infonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3500144491563926221.post-76983026867030696522011-10-24T21:51:52.950+03:002011-10-24T21:51:52.950+03:00No, it does not apply to photography as we practic...No, it does not apply to photography as we practice it. We are skilled because we practice. We hone our skills. It applies to Art though. You know, the kind of occupation where one gets paid millions for conserving a big fish. Or not. Most of them not. Regardless of talent, skill or even mastery. <br /><br />And it applies to management and politics :DAndreashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15992874945092411553noreply@blogger.com